Day 400 | 15 February 2016 |From Badshapur Chowk to Kanhei Church | The Walk of Hope 2015-16

  • WOH Day 400 - Another landmark day - Badshahpur Chowk to Kanhei
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  • Pathwaysians join the padayatra - Haryana
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  • The St Xavier High School Gurgaon Band leads the way
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  • 4.Good-to-have-the-youth-with-us,-Pathwaysians,-Xavierites-&-students-of-Govt-school,-Rosewood-City!,-Gurgaon,-Haryana
  • 5.Xavierites-bid-goodbye-after-the-walk,-Nirwana-Chowk,-Gurgaon,-Haryana
  • Sri M with the differently-abled kids of Pallavanjali - Gurgaon
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  • Students of Pathways Worldschool shake hands with Sri M after participating in th Walk
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  • Students of Amity International School welcome Sri M - Gurgaon
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  • Sri M interacts with the students of Amity
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  • Bishop Emeritus Vincent welcomes Sri M at the Church of Immaculate Conception - Kanhei
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  • Sri M addresses the congregation - Kanhei
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  • Sri M, with the portrait of one of his favorite Saints in the background.
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Day 400 of the walk was marked by participation of students of Pathways World School, Government Primary School, Rosewood City, St Xavier High School, Gurgaon and Amity International School. The children walked in relays, holding placards and flags—thoroughly enjoying themselves while being gently shepherded by their teachers.

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The walk went along the planned boulevards of Gurgaon, with giant skyscrapers on both sides. Legend has it that this village was given to Dronacharya by the Kauravas & Pandavas as 'dakshina'. Hence, Gurugaon – which got corrupted to Gurgaon. This nondescript village started growing with the establishment of Maruti Udyog Ltd in 1970 and continues to grow at a breakneck speed. The walk ended at Church of Immaculate Conception, Kanhei village. Father Arul Antony, in his address, lauded the effort of Manav Ekta Mission in initiating the Walk of Hope, hailing it as the need of the hour. He wanted improvement in humanity in all men and welcomed all to the church. Bishop Emeritus Vincent also spoke on the occasion. There were hymns and prayers before Sri M addressed the gathering. He said: "It is a wonderful thing that we have ended today's walk at a church. It is a good sign that we heard the prayers, sang hymns and felt peace". The evening Satsang was at one of the best management institutes in India – MDI, Management Development Institute. The tastefully designed brick buildings are a sight to behold. The short and crisp presentation of the function added luster to the event. Dr Shreemali, Director, MDI welcomed Sri M and the padayatris. He said that irrespective of the success achieved by Management Institutes like MDI in churning out top-notch professionals, their ultimate endeavour was to enable the trainees to touch the lives of people. Walk of Hope is doing it. He felt the walk was very relevant now. He invited Sri M to shed light on his walk and enlighten the gathering. Sri M started by thanking the staff, teachers of MDI, guests and the padayatris and continued to introduce himself saying, "I'm not a Sanyasi, I don't wear ochre robes. I would prefer people to simply call me M. If you need to give a little bit of respect, you can add a Sri. Mister M sounds like James Bond's boss. Many people consider me as a Guru. But I'm concerned about that word. Gurudom has become a very commercial thing. So, M is good enough." He then spoke about the chant that he wished to start the day's talk with: “Om Sarve Bhavantu Sukhinah, Sarve Santu Nir-Aamayaah Sarve Bhadraanni Pashyantu Maa Kashcid-Duhkha-Bhaag-Bhavet Om Shaantih Shaantih Shaantih When someone says something in Sanskrit, people say’ ‘Oh this is Hindu’. When somebody says something in Arabic, they say ‘this is Islam’. We have divided ourselves on the basis of language, and on the basis of religion. One of the aims of our walk is to bring people together. To give a simple straightforward translation, it simply means ‘may the whole world be happy’. ‘Let not the world suffer in any way’. It's an ancient language called Sanskrit. It is so advanced that one word can only be translated with 10, 20 words in English. The other shloka I'd like to chant is to show that involvement is necessary between the teacher and the taught. It is chanted before any Vedic teaching: Om Saha Nau-Avatu Saha Nau Bhunaktu Saha Viiryam Karavaavahai Tejasvi Nau-Adhiitam-Astu Maa Vidvissaavahai Om Shaantih Shaantih Shaantih The key word that is repeated again and again is 'Saha'. It means together. 'Saha Nau-Avatu' -may both of us be protected. Protected from what? I would interpret it as protection from divisive tendencies, protection from people who are ready to kill each other. What happens if there's a war taking place outside? How do we sit down, how do we study? So, protection essentially from all these things. 'Saha Nau-Avatu,Saha Nau Bhunaktu’, may both of us be nourished. Nourishment is so important, not only physical nourishment but also mental nourishment, nourishment of the mind. Swami Vivekananda was asked, how could we go to villages and teach them meditation, religion? He said, you want to go and do something in rural India, go with telephones, maps, books and teach them how to stand on their own feet. What Vedanta will you teach to empty stomachs? Nourishment is so important, physical as well of the mind. Not only nourishment for the teachers to grow, but also to the student. They are both put on the same platform when they use the word 'Saha'. The last one should be translated and hung in all colleges, ‘Maa Vidvissaavahai’' — let us not fight with each other. Now, what it means is difference of opinion is possible, dialogue is possible, discussion is possible, not an argument. There's a difference between a dialogue, discussion and an argument. Argument is when I think I'm right and I'm trying to push. You think you're right and you're trying to push. And, there's no meeting point. But, in a discussion, the mind is open to talk, to discuss. Having said this much, I hope the padayatris – my friends who are walking with us from Kanyakumari till here – think about this at least once a day. That may we be protected, may we be nourished, may we not fight with each other. ‘Tejasvi Nau-Adhiitam', may the ‘Tejas’– the spiritual energy – in us increase. Having said this, I must now tell you a little bit about the yatra. This Walk of Hope – in Hindi we call it the Asha Yatra – started on the 12th of January 2015, from Kanyakumari. The reason we chose Kanyakumari in the southern most State of India (officially we started from a point that's referred to as the Zero point) because it's a confluence of three great oceans – the Indian Ocean, the Arabian Sea and the Bay of Bengal. So we thought that when we're into a movement to bring people together, this is the right place to start. Also,it's called the Zero point. Believe me when we started the walk, even financially we were almost zero. Everyone asked me - how are we going to do this walk? I said we are going to do this walk anyway. St. Francis of Assisi was once asked by his disciples to say a few words. You see he was very fond of walking. At the end of the day, he said he would speak. They asked, 'You said you would speak but you haven't spoken'. So he said, 'My walk is my talk'. So, it happened.Slowly it has built up. But we started from scratch and moved forward. I really thank the people who decided that they would walk with me with absolutely no guarantees, that they would walk with a mad man from Kanyakumari to Kashmir. Sometimes to do wonderful things one has to go insane. When I told Anna Hazare at Ralegaon Siddhi that people think I've gone insane, he said, ‘Only someone who's mad can do something like this’. He didn't deny that I'm mad. The other reason why we chose 12th January is because it's Swami Vivekananda's birth anniversary. Here was a man, who I believe, did so much for humanity. His life was a life of service and sacrifice. What he did 100 years ago was so much for humanity. He made this famous statement, 'Atmano moksahartha jagat hithaya cha' – Moksha for the soul and service for the world. For a 100 years, a 100 people couldn't have done the kind of work he did." Saying so, Sri M proceeded to give more details of the walk, the states covered, and distance walked so far. Speaking of the inspiration behind the walk, Sri M said, "So, the inspiration is my personal experience with my teacher who belonged to the Nath Sampradaya and Gorakhnath when I was in the Himalayas. But I don't think you could categorize him into any sect or any creed. He was a man with a wide open mind. In fact, on his instruction, I was taken to Sufi teachers in Ajmer. In his own words, he told them, 'Give him a 7 month crash course'. I have been with Christian fathers, and spent a short time in the seminary. I have been in the Ramakrishna Mission. I have studied a great deal about Sikh scriptures. I have studied a reasonable amount of Buddhist teachings. I wouldn't say I'm an expert in any of these. But I have gone through them. I know that ultimately, in essence, when you say there is a communal problem, it's usually the facade of communalism that is seen. If you look carefully, you'll see there's a vested interest. I've studied it, and I've known it. Nobody really wants to hurt somebody. Peace is of the essence in all religions. When we have a Satsang and conclude it, we always chant: ‘Om Shanti Shanti Shanti’. So, ultimately, it's peace that everyone wants. When two Muslims meet each other, they say 'Salaam Alaikum', what does it mean? It means 'May the peace or the well being of the Lord be upon you'. And the reply is the same, ‘May it be on you too'. When Jews meet each other, they say Shalom, which isn't very different from Salaam, peace. You know the Buddhists lay so much value on peace. You know the Jain religion itself starts with 'Ahimsa Paramo Dharmaha'. As far as the Sikh religion is concerned, we know how Guru Nanak himself was a champion of unity of religions. We are just walking from Kanyakumari to Kashmir. I'm amazed how this man walked not only in India but in many places outside India. I always tell people that much of the work of Kabir was saved because they incorporated it in the Granth Sahib. Early morning if you go to the Guru Govind temple and enter, you'll hear beautiful chants of Kabir. It could be a coincidence, but every Gurudwara we have been to, they open the Guru Granth Sahib blindly, and 90% of the time, it has been Kabir. In the Granth, it says, 'Avval Allah Noor Upaaye, Kudarat Ke Sab Bandey'. Coming back, when I was with Maheshwarnath Babaji in the Himalayas, one day we were sitting on the banks of the Ganga. The teaching that I received was very interesting. It was not as if I was asked to learn. It was through talk, by walking with him, I learnt many things, including The Gita and the Upanishad. So, one day, he said to me, because I was insisting that I want to meditate for 15 years in the cave, 'If you meditate in a cave for 10 hours every day for 10 years and when you come out of the cave, if you don't hear the cry of pain of a hungry child in a small kutir outside, all your 10 hours of Sadhana for 10 years is zero. He added - you've done nothing because a Yogi is not someone who hardens his heart but someone whose heart becomes sensitive to everything in society. This was the root cause of the walk. The other reason is that, in my spiritual understanding, I feel that if there is an infinite power, I say 'if' because there might be people here who believe nothing is there. In Kerala, we have people who say nothing is there. In Kerala, anybody who goes to college goes through a small Marxist phase. Even I did. I was also student leader with SFI, Student Federation of India. I believe that the part of the divinity is in all human beings. They are mobile temples, or moving altars of God. And the worship here is done through service. So, I felt let me dedicate my life for this. The third aspect is to do with my cultural background. I have to introduce myself, people wonder why they call me ‘Sri M.’” Sri M then went on to introduce himself and share the objectives of the walk. Then, a Question & Answer followed. Q: Sir, I want to know the purpose of my life. A: What is the purpose of everybody’s life? What are we looking for? There is something that inspires us because of which we move forward and we all see happiness in something. I believe that it’s not enough that I see happiness, but I also try and get it ignited - the way to happiness - in others. But that we seek happiness is a common factor in all human beings. Nobody seeks sorrow. Everybody seeks freedom from sorrow. Buddha defined Moksha as freedom from sorrow. So, this is what we look for. Unfortunately, we think that if we have a certain material infrastructure, we might get happiness.That if I have this many crores in my bank, then perhaps I might become happy. If I have a family or some people think if I buy a Mercedes Benz, it is a state of happiness. We always think that happiness is dependent on external factors. Now, the ancients have said that happiness is a state of mind and we are trying to seek that in outward satisfaction. We never really come to it. There is an incomplete-ness. There is no 'poornatha', there is no completeness. And, all our life we are trying to bring about this completeness. There is nothing wrong with that. It is fine. In this world, you have to have things to live for. But one understands that it is not this that brings about happiness. This state of mind that one is rich or one is poor is not as if the poor who don’t have anything are happy.It doesn’t mean that. It also doesn’t mean that the rich who have everything are happy. Happiness is a state of mind. So, like Kabirdas said of the Kasturi deer, which is called the Musk deer. When the season comes and the musk is generated, this beautiful scent comes out, a lovely perfume. The poor deer –I’m saying D-E-E-R, also D-E-A-R – goes looking around for the source of this lovely perfume all over the forest, not realizing that it is coming from right under its tail. This is the scent. This is what we seek. We say that you are probably seeking it in the wrong direction. And, if you think that your individual happiness is all that matters, one can never live like that. When others who are dependent on us or those we are dependent on are happy, then there will be some kind of happiness. Otherwise, there is no happiness except for the Yogi who has touched the inner world. He has found the completeness which is called 'Poorna. Poornam idam, poornam adam'. Then when he sees that completeness, he also sees this completeness. He makes no difference between human hearts. But that is the final state. At least, he should start with this understanding. You know, there is a fakir sitting under a tree holding a begging bowl. Lots of people come there to bow down to him.What does he have? He has nothing. BMW, Mercedes (cars) come and park there. People come and fall at his feet and pray for things. What are they asking for when this guy doesn’t have anything other than a begging bowl? This is what we are all working at and trying to attain and it keeps slipping away from us until we rest in peace. That is of no use then. In fact, Babaji used to say that when they write in the graveyard ‘RIP’ 'rest in peace', he said it means something else also, 'Rise If Possible'. Q: As you have walked through all these states and gone to all these villages, what is the common thing that you hear from people? Have people been very receptive to you or anti-you? What is your experience? A: Till today, in all the places that we have walked, all the people we have met, there is one common refrain that I hear, even in villages.They are very happy to see us coming. There might be some little bit of anti, like people say that you are mad and so on, but generally people are very receptive. I’ve gone to villages where there are only 100 people living there. I have gone to a village where there is only 1 Muslim family living with a tomb that is looked after by everybody else. Now, what they say to us is, ‘We also think the same what you say. We are thinking exactly the same but we have not had the guts to open our minds and speak about it due to various reasons.’ So, they are so happy that somebody is talking about this and walking around. They are so concerned about my safety. They are scared that vested interests will not want to hear this. How are you going about freely talking about this? I say, you know what? I have something to do. With God’s grace, it will be done. This is the response. I am so happy that we have hardly received any negative comments from people. In fact, people are so happy, that many of us have put on weight! Now, of course, I’m not comparing it with Punjab! Q: You have some spiritual knowledge and experience. Are there many realms in Heaven? The reason is I understand that Kabir and Guru Nanak were great Saints and they came from Satya Lok while all the other Yogis came only from Brahma Lok. Please share your experience about this. A: Sir, I think we should not get into the Lokas (worlds) right now. Better to stay with Bhu-Loka (Earth) now. If we remedy things that are happening in Bhu-Loka, then perhaps when our minds are calm and quiet, we might be able to explore the Lokas that you are talking about. It’s true that I personally believe that it can’t be that in this vast universe, just this Earth - which is like a speck of dust - is the only place where there are living beings. It cannot be. It’s so silly for us to think that. I’m sure there are worlds that we haven’t touched or reached, but that is no reason why they shouldn’t exist, it must be. But let us now confine ourselves to the present, this world. Q: My question is (my wife is sitting with me) how did you manage freedom from suffering when you were in family life? Because you went to the Himalayas and such, what is the way out? A: You know, it’s a good idea in your young age to go through some kind of spiritual training, so when you come to this stage of marriage, it is possible to handle it. I’m a married man. Ramakrishna Paramahamsa had a beautiful example to give. He used to say that the period of learning, which in ancient times was called Brahmacharya, if you go through it properly, it is like applying oil to your palms before opening up the jackfruit. It doesn’t stick. Plus, I think sometimes, one’s own wife (please I’m not referring to anyone including mine) is a wonderful ego-demolisher. You know, ego is our problem. It’s a wonderful ego demolisher. If I go there and I see there are one thousand people sitting for the Satsang - I’m not saying about myself - in case somebody talks to my wife and she says, yes, I saw it on Facebook how many ladies were standing around! So you are cut. It’s a good thing. In fact, it works the other way also. Not only from that side. We also are sometimes too tight. We don’t open up and give freedom. But, since we are on the subject, I would like to tell you, give me a minute. This is not meant as an insult to any woman or any lady. This is from the old Sufi texts. There was a great man called Mullah Nasruddin. He was considered a joker, but actually he was a wise man. So, one day, Mullah Nasruddin saw a man standing on the footpath and selling old swords and spears and weapons, rusted ones, and demanding a very big price for them. So Mullah Nassiruddin went to him and said, ‘Hey, why are you charging so much for such old swords? They are all rusted and old’ So, the man picked up one sword, and he said, 'Look, it might appear to you to be old and useless but when Sultan Salauddin swung it, 10 heads used to be cut off at one stroke. This is the value, it’s an antique'. The next day, this man saw Mullah Nassiruddin on the other footpath, on the other side, and he had many kitchen utensils and one of those was a pair of tongs – you know the tongs you use for gas, fire, an old pair of rusted tongs. He picked it up, he raised it and said 'This costs many dirhams'. The other man asked, 'What the hell, this is just an old pair of tongs. Why do you charge so much?” Mullah replied, 'It might appear to you (like he said about the sword) to be a pair of old kitchen tongs but they are special'. The man asked, 'What is so special? Mullah replied: ‘Because when my wife throws it, it clears nine feet and hits me on the head'. These are all great ego levelers and we should actually appreciate them. Do Namaskars, otherwise you can’t lead a happy life, I’m telling you. Q: What was the need for a Himalayan Master to become James Talbot? A: Oh, that was just a pen name because it is a book of magic and to use my own name – of course, the publisher said I should do it, it would have sold more – my idea was, it's not a book on philosophy or religion, it's a book on magic. I wanted to write it because many people think they are levitating and all these things. I wanted to expose the truth about all these things - what magicians do, how mechanical devices are used to bring about an effect, how illusions are created by mirrors and such. So I wrote this book. The reason also being one doesn't get caught up with gurus who use magic. I said let me expose this. So that's why I wrote this book. Therefore, when I wrote this book, I was thinking of Sri Ramakrishna Paramahamsa actually. See, Ramakrishna had been asking a man to read the Gita. For three years, he didn't read it. One day, the same man comes and says, 'You should read The Bhagavat Gita, it's a wonderful book'. Sri Ramakrishna told his disciple, 'Some 'angrez' (Englishman) must have told him it is a good book'. So I thought an English name like James Talbot or something like that would help because it was a book of magic. My autobiography and other books are all in my name. The publishers said if you had put Sri M, it would have sold more. Q: How do you know you've found a Guru? A: Guidance on the spiritual path can't be done on the stage. I'll tell you why. If you have understood the theory, and you want a spiritual experience, the first thing is to find somebody who has traveled on the path. And if you are convinced that this guy has some experience, because of the way he lives and the way he interacts – he doesn't ask you to give him a cheque, rather, he has something to give you – so, when you discover this, you should live with him for some time, see him in action, because it is very easy to stand on the stage and put up a smile. But, actually in different circumstances, how does he react? ‘sitosna-sukha-duhkhesu tatha manapamanayoh’ What is his equanimity in Sukha, Dukha (happiness and sorrow) etc? Is the person able to be calm and quiet in the midst of sorrow and happiness, both? What happens to us is that when we are happy, we are up there and when there is sorrow, we are down. A Yogi who has had an inner experience is always still. These are some of the criteria, not how he looks or what kind of robes he has or what robes he wears. That's not the thing. A Yogi who has understood this, for him praise and blame are equal. Normally, how do we lead our lives? If somebody praises us, we are very happy. If somebody says, 'He is a fool, he doesn't know anything', we get very depressed. Most of the medicines sold in this country and around the world are pills for depression. And it comes in such strange ways, such as 'I went to a wedding and nobody talked to me', so what? You could have sat and had your food quietly and come back. Ego! Unless, you know that person for a length of time, you won't be able to see if he is himself calm. I believe that much of spiritual knowledge comes through contact and through being with someone than through words. For instance, two people might be sitting near each other - the teacher and the student - having a cup of tea and talking about a flower or a coconut tree or something. What happens is both are interested in it and both their minds are in the same wavelength. This is important. When that takes place, something is imperceptibly transferred to the other. This is the teaching. So, if you ask me, we should be in touch for a while before we discover if it's possible and a true spiritual teacher is not in the business of collecting a number of disciples. He is more interested in using his time for those who are really serious about the path. And he doesn't convert somebody from one to another. I'll give an example; people come to me from the Yogoda Satsanga Society by Paramahansa Yogananda. They practice Kriya, my practice is also Kriya but not from that source, it's the same or similar. When they come to me, I don't tell them, 'Look, leave that and come to me'. I'll ask them, 'How many years have you been practicing? How many times did you break practice? How regular are you? If you are not, please go back and stick with it and practice. You don't have to come. Do you understand what I'm trying to say? And for each person it will be different. I'm sure I have not answered your question. But I think I've given some lead. Q: (question not audible) A: It's so, so important. I wouldn't say everywhere, but in many cases, education is for finding jobs, or for such purposes. There is no education where there is something to do with the mind, or studying the mind, dealing with the mind, on how to live in the world. I'm sure there are in some places. So, my suggestion for this, is that in the regular education curriculum, we should include considerable periods of time for this kind of work. I heard today that some students from here are sent to villages. Now this is a good thing. Go to the villages, live with them for some time. So, this is very important that, in the curriculum, even the government should introduce the same in some way. Even in schools, at least one class in a week that teaches how to live in this world – to look after yourself, how to manage your mind that is so important. Because, after all, if you have everything else and if the mind begins to break, shatter, then there is no point. On the other hand, even if you have nothing, if the mind is steady, you have everything. This is so, so important and it need not be tied to a religious thing or anything of that sort. It can also be non-denominational. However, having said that, I must say, that the most serious and advanced teachings on this subject can be found in the old Sanskrit texts. If you can't read Sanskrit, there are good translations. Q: Actually, I read through your book. I have a question that I think you answered somewhere. Is there God? Have you seen God? Who is Sri Guru Babaji, is he Shiva? A: Please keep Sri Guru Babaji out of this, these are not matters to be discussed. Regarding whether there is God, I believe, not only believe, it is my experience that there is an all-pervading reality. It is the core of our consciousness and it is there and it need not necessarily be seen in form. It's more to do with feelings than a form. And anyone who touches it will completely change. Anyone who has the experience of touching the hem of the garment of that truth can never be the same person again. And all the so-called spiritual practices that we do is to bring one face to face with this. And, like Kabir said, it's not anywhere far away. And, the Upanishad says, 'it's far away yet so near'. And the Sufis quote the Koran saying, it is nearer to you than your own nerve in your neck. You can neither say it is him or her. You can't say it because then it becomes a kind of matter. It's an all-pervading reality which is everywhere. How do we seek something that is everywhere? If it's far away, then you go to it. That is linear thinking. This is something you find is there, now and here. Then the mind should stop moving in any direction whatsoever and remain quiet. In that quietness, perhaps, one discovers this reality. Once it is experienced, I don't think one can be the same. Everything is overhauled; sometimes, this overhauling is a painful process. But it is worth the wait. Q: When we talk about Vedanta, we talk about the way of life....Vedanta was always there. Why do we have religions in the first place? A: See, what one should understand is, behind every so-called organized religion is a mystical experience of somebody. You will not find any organized religion which has not come out of somebody's mystical experience. Even the Upanishad, which of course is 'shruti', has come from the mystical experience of the rishis. Now when this happens, when the mystical experience happens, the person discovers there is something other than this, like there is some divine being. Depending on where he was born, geographical locality, and the kind of people amongst whom he lived at that moment, a certain kind of religion is formalized so they can have something concrete to practice through which their minds can slowly purify. You know, until a hundred years after Jesus, there was no church. Jesus was a great being. I'm not saying there shouldn't be religions. I'm saying that, after some time, the organizational aspects become more important because of vested interests. Especially if you link politics and religion together, it'll become more serious. The 'Khalif' is not only a spiritual head, he is also a power. So the organization becomes more important than the spiritual power. So, I want to tell you a little story. It's my favorite story from a man that I really appreciate, who is much older than me and no more. This is about the Devil. The Devil and his close friend were going for a walk. The Devil picked up something from the grass and put it in his pocket. So his friend asked, what did you pick up just now? So the Devil said, I just picked up the truth. So his friend said to him, 'It is the opposite of what you represent viz. untruth, darkness, evil. If you have picked up truth and goodness, your days are numbered, you are finished now’. The Devil tapped his friend on his shoulder and said, 'Don't worry friend, I'll organize it'. Q: Sir, we all know that we don't need material things to actually be happy. So there may come a point where we must do something but we feel that we don't need to prove to anyone. So, I am the way I am and I don't need to prove it to anyone. It can be construed as lack of ambition by some. So, what does one do? Is there a balance between the two? A: I understand the question. The main thing about the question you asked me is, well, if you have discovered something, not dependent on the outside world, which is inner happiness, and if it is not chemically produced through ‘grass’ or any such thing, then you are free to say that this is my happiness and it'll stay forever. However, through chemical processes, that happiness doesn't stay for long, and that's why people say he is not ambitious, he is not doing anything. If it's actually a spiritual experience which makes you calm and quiet and happy and not wanting, you cannot remain without sharing it with others. It becomes so powerful inside that at some point you do want to share it with others. Now, if you do want to share it with others, then you'll have to once more plug into this world. But, because you are safe and your mind is calm, whatever problems arise, it will not affect you. A Yogi is not one who doesn't work, a Yogi is one who works, sometimes harder than the non-Yogi but is not affected by the opposites.

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